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]]> By: Spenca Johnson http://hurston.learnerblogs.org/2005/11/27/janie%e2%80%99s-silence-in-early-chapter-17/#comment-241 Spenca Johnson Mon, 08 May 2006 18:09:30 +0000 http://hurston.learnerblogs.org/2005/11/27/janie%e2%80%99s-silence-in-early-chapter-17/#comment-241 yeah i think that she is silent because she cant really talk, maybe her voice is hoarse, but idk yeah i think that she is silent because she cant really talk, maybe her voice is hoarse, but idk

]]> By: al the great http://hurston.learnerblogs.org/2005/11/27/janie%e2%80%99s-silence-in-early-chapter-17/#comment-211 al the great Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:43:55 +0000 http://hurston.learnerblogs.org/2005/11/27/janie%e2%80%99s-silence-in-early-chapter-17/#comment-211 anybody know any themes from chapter 17? i need 5 of them. anybody know any themes from chapter 17? i need 5 of them.

]]> By: hurston http://hurston.learnerblogs.org/2005/11/27/janie%e2%80%99s-silence-in-early-chapter-17/#comment-108 hurston Tue, 29 Nov 2005 02:50:15 +0000 http://hurston.learnerblogs.org/2005/11/27/janie%e2%80%99s-silence-in-early-chapter-17/#comment-108 As Chapter 17 begins, Janie's silence somewhat takes the by surprise. It appears as if Janie is taking everything she worked so hard for in her life and slowly letting it all slip away. It is very uncharacteristic of Janie to let Tea Cake simply slap her around. Tea Cake has humiliated her in a similar fashion that Jody did. As mentioned by those who have posted ahead of me, I believe that insecurity is a hufe part of the problems in the relationship. Leen mentioned that Janie was just as insecure as Tea Cake. I believe she has just reasoning to feel insecure. After all, she has gone through some tough relationships in the past and realizes that there is always the potential for something tragic to happen, and all dreams to shatter instantly. However, if Tea Cake is insecure about keeping Janie, he should know by now that beating her is going about it the wrong way. Hurston writes, "Being able to whip her reassured him of his possession. No brutal beating at all. He just slapped her around a bit to show he was boss," (140). This is pretty much the opposite of what Janie wants. As she stated in the past, she wants to be treated as an equal, not have somebody boss her around. If Tea Cake isn't careful, his insecurities could get the best of him. Chris DeBellis As Chapter 17 begins, Janie’s silence somewhat takes the by surprise. It appears as if Janie is taking everything she worked so hard for in her life and slowly letting it all slip away. It is very uncharacteristic of Janie to let Tea Cake simply slap her around. Tea Cake has humiliated her in a similar fashion that Jody did. As mentioned by those who have posted ahead of me, I believe that insecurity is a hufe part of the problems in the relationship. Leen mentioned that Janie was just as insecure as Tea Cake. I believe she has just reasoning to feel insecure. After all, she has gone through some tough relationships in the past and realizes that there is always the potential for something tragic to happen, and all dreams to shatter instantly. However, if Tea Cake is insecure about keeping Janie, he should know by now that beating her is going about it the wrong way. Hurston writes, “Being able to whip her reassured him of his possession. No brutal beating at all. He just slapped her around a bit to show he was boss,” (140). This is pretty much the opposite of what Janie wants. As she stated in the past, she wants to be treated as an equal, not have somebody boss her around. If Tea Cake isn’t careful, his insecurities could get the best of him.

Chris DeBellis

]]> By: hurston http://hurston.learnerblogs.org/2005/11/27/janie%e2%80%99s-silence-in-early-chapter-17/#comment-105 hurston Tue, 29 Nov 2005 02:09:04 +0000 http://hurston.learnerblogs.org/2005/11/27/janie%e2%80%99s-silence-in-early-chapter-17/#comment-105 I would have to say that Tea Cake's abusive behavior towards Janie is out of insecurity. Tea Cake sees Mrs. Turner's brother as a threat which shows that he is not confident with his relationship with Janie and, therefore, does not completely trust her. Beating Janie not only shows the townspeople that Tea Cake is in control, but it also assures Tea Cake that he dominates Janie and holds her affection. There is something about Tea Cake that I have found flaky, and for that I don't think his actions are truly justified. Emily Ward I would have to say that Tea Cake’s abusive behavior towards Janie is out of insecurity. Tea Cake sees Mrs. Turner’s brother as a threat which shows that he is not confident with his relationship with Janie and, therefore, does not completely trust her. Beating Janie not only shows the townspeople that Tea Cake is in control, but it also assures Tea Cake that he dominates Janie and holds her affection. There is something about Tea Cake that I have found flaky, and for that I don’t think his actions are truly justified.

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]]> By: hurston http://hurston.learnerblogs.org/2005/11/27/janie%e2%80%99s-silence-in-early-chapter-17/#comment-101 hurston Tue, 29 Nov 2005 01:31:54 +0000 http://hurston.learnerblogs.org/2005/11/27/janie%e2%80%99s-silence-in-early-chapter-17/#comment-101 I disagree with Leena and her statement that Janie's silence is her greatest weakness. Yes, this scene is very important and it does portray Janie's and Tea Cakes relationship in a new light, but I agree with Chris. Since Jody's death, Janie has developed her own voice and freedom. When Tea Cake beats her the reader observes Janie's ablity to control her new voice. She loves Tea Cake more than both her two husbands combined and realizes that Tea Cake beating her is just his way of showing others his dominance. Although Janie acts towards the beating as she would have with her other two husbands she stays silent out of love and confidence in the fact that Tea Cake, being much younger than her and never having to experionse this situation before, will see the error of his actions. Janie is correct with her assumation and after the beating occurance all Tea Cake can do is adore her and love her even more. I agree with Lauren's last thought and would find it out of character for Tea Cake to beat Janie again after seeing the errors of his actions the first time. -Monica I disagree with Leena and her statement that Janie’s silence is her greatest weakness. Yes, this scene is very important and it does portray Janie’s and Tea Cakes relationship in a new light, but I agree with Chris. Since Jody’s death, Janie has developed her own voice and freedom. When Tea Cake beats her the reader observes Janie’s ablity to control her new voice. She loves Tea Cake more than both her two husbands combined and realizes that Tea Cake beating her is just his way of showing others his dominance. Although Janie acts towards the beating as she would have with her other two husbands she stays silent out of love and confidence in the fact that Tea Cake, being much younger than her and never having to experionse this situation before, will see the error of his actions. Janie is correct with her assumation and after the beating occurance all Tea Cake can do is adore her and love her even more. I agree with Lauren’s last thought and would find it out of character for Tea Cake to beat Janie again after seeing the errors of his actions the first time.

-Monica

]]> By: hurston http://hurston.learnerblogs.org/2005/11/27/janie%e2%80%99s-silence-in-early-chapter-17/#comment-98 hurston Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:33:23 +0000 http://hurston.learnerblogs.org/2005/11/27/janie%e2%80%99s-silence-in-early-chapter-17/#comment-98 I, along with everyone else who posted, was also struck by Janie's silence and the way she let Tea Cake beat her in chapter 17. It was disheartening that Janie let this go on, even though it was described as not that harsh. I agree with Leena that it showed weakness on Janie's part, especially since the narrator says it was "not because her behavior justified his jealousy, but it relieved that awful fear inside him" (Hurston 140). There really was no prominent reason for Tea Cake to do such a thing. I also agree with Leena's point about Janie being just as insecure with the relationship as Tea Cake is, and I believe that is one of the reasons for her silence. I don't think she was as secure with her beliefs at that point in the story as she had been when she stood up to previous husbands. The reason for this I think might have been because she knows that Tea Cake is the right man for her, and she did not want to do anything that could jeopardize their relationship. While there were surprising actions on both parts, I don't think it will happen again, and I believe their relationship status is secure again. -Lauren I, along with everyone else who posted, was also struck by Janie’s silence and the way she let Tea Cake beat her in chapter 17. It was disheartening that Janie let this go on, even though it was described as not that harsh. I agree with Leena that it showed weakness on Janie’s part, especially since the narrator says it was “not because her behavior justified his jealousy, but it relieved that awful fear inside him” (Hurston 140). There really was no prominent reason for Tea Cake to do such a thing. I also agree with Leena’s point about Janie being just as insecure with the relationship as Tea Cake is, and I believe that is one of the reasons for her silence. I don’t think she was as secure with her beliefs at that point in the story as she had been when she stood up to previous husbands. The reason for this I think might have been because she knows that Tea Cake is the right man for her, and she did not want to do anything that could jeopardize their relationship. While there were surprising actions on both parts, I don’t think it will happen again, and I believe their relationship status is secure again.
-Lauren

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